Who will ever rank Top 10 in LMSYS Chatbot Arena Leaderboard in 2025?
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resolved Jan 26
Resolvido
YES
Mistral
Resolvido
YES
DeepSeek
Resolvido
YES
Alibaba (Qwen)
Resolvido
YES
Moonshot (Kimi)
Resolvido
NO
Safe Superintelligence / SSI
Resolvido
NO
Reka AI
Resolvido
NO
NexusFlow (Athene)
Resolvido
NO
01 AI (Yi)
Resolvido
NO
Cohere (Command R+)
Resolvido
NO
Nvidia
Resolvido
NO
AI21 Labs (Jamba)
Resolvido
NO
thinking machines

Chatbot Arena Leaderboard or iterations/new versions of it as creator sees fit. If the project is altogether abandoned with no equivalent, the answers that have not yet resolved YES will resolve NO at EOY unless some replacement appears.

Feel free to add names, I will try to control them as they come in to avoid duplicates or other types of confusion. Feel free to add major labs that feel ~guaranteed to be top 10 at some point, which is why I focused on more interesting questions.


Since some of the labs are obscure, I appreciate input on name changes, acquisitions etc.

  • A name change would change the name of the answer too, and still count.

  • An acquisition, where the model takes the name of the buyer rather than the original company, would not count.

    • I feel a bit uncertain about this one and would appreciate input, seems like this could look very different depending on the nature of the buy.

  • If merger, I will generally try to go with whatever name is stated on the leaderboard.

If multiple shared #10 ranks, as has been the case in the past, any of those positions count.


If there are no longer ranked numbers, only top 10 spot/ELO would count. If same ELO as #10, but 10+th spot for some trivial/irrelevant reason, still resolves YES.

Answer resolves YES immediately when an update has been confirmed, no matter what duration it stays in top.

Any AI that hasn't been Top 10 before during 2025, resolves to NO at the end of the year.

I will not trade in this market, resolution might get messy through mergers/acquisitions, changes to the leaderboard, etc.

Let me know if you want to see improvements to criteria.

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Resolving rest to NO unless there are objections.

@HenriThunberg i'd object to not resolving the rest to no

comprou Ṁ855 YES
comprou Ṁ288 YES

@HenriThunberg Moonshot Kimi is currently rank 5

aberto a Ṁ600 YES at 99.0% order

@HenriThunberg qwen is currently #7

@TotalVerb good. Atch, thank you!

@HenriThunberg deepseek resolves yes

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